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TALKING THE PRACTICE: DISCUSSION ON GRAPHIC DESIGN

POSTED ON 05/12/2020 IN CONVERSATION—
PIANPIAN HE & MAX HARVEY WIN SHANOKPRASITH
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Our plan to host the upcoming talk event in the BOOK TALK series for a couple of hours in March by Pianpian He and Max Harvey together with Win Shanokprasith on graphic design was cancelled due to the coronavirus outbreak. However, as we agreed that the conversation should continue, we came up with this article, which turned out to have even more in-depth insights since their conversation has started since the COVID-19 situation was at its peak in China while Thailand was not yet fully aware of how grave the situation could be.

“Why do we have to talk about graphic design now?” and “How would it be of any importance during this difficult time?” are what all three of them had at the back of their mind. The conversation in this article is thus not concerned about ideas and the design process of graphic designers, solely for the purpose of being an inspiration. It is rather a series of questions toward the role of graphic designers through their discussions on contexts, which affect every aspect of graphic design, from designing to critical examination. Their conversations are based on the world context that we all are facing at the moment, the socio-political contexts of both China and USA, printing censorship to the limitation in accessibility to information by the Party, fake news, tricking algorithms to VPN and WeChat.

Questions and answers in this article are formed in different time and space. The conversation started in Thailand in February at the BOOKSHOP LIBRARY, a house in Nonthaburi province, an Airbnb apartment in On Nut area, the Suvarnabhumi Airport, then continued on in China in March at Guangzhou Baiyun International Airport, a room in a quarantined hotel, and finally ended at the apartment in Changsha in April with helps from online tools like video call on ZOOM and texting via LINE application.

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

Win Shanokprasith (WS) — When is a work finished? 

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — You have used graphic design as a point of collaboration with people from different fields of practice. Can you describe the differences, commonalities, or things you found surprising about doing graphic design with artists, museums, anthropologists, writers, etc.?

16.03.2020, On Nut BTS, Bangkok

PH & MH — What is your take on that? Do you recall any anecdotes?

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — Describe your background.

About Win Shanokprasith.

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — What is graphic design to you? How do you use graphic design in your life? Would you say that your idea of graphic design is different from what you think other people would think of the field?

18.04.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — “Finding a right tone”. I like that you chose the words “a right tone” rather than “the right tone”, by which I agree that there is never a singular objective solution to a design problem. Nor do I think there should be one! An outcome is just a possibility, a version of a translation of the given content problem.

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — Describe your practice.

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — What are ways in which aesthetics and formal qualities of graphic design can be used to add value to the “stuff” graphic design is giving form to? What are ways in which processes and human communication can be used to add value to the “stuff” graphic design is giving form to? What about the subversion of said “stuff”? What is the value of subversion?

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nontaburi

WS — There is this idea about the legibility of graphic form (and typography) as a formal virtue in graphic design, especially when what you’re designing for is tied to real business values or the marketability of the designed object.

And in response to this you mentioned a great comparison of graphic design to poetry—how poetry, unlike other forms of writing, asks the reader to put in the work in exchange for an experience that is possibly unbound by limitations of language.

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nontaburi

WS — How do you qualify a work as successful?

16.03.2020, On Nut BTS, Bangkok

PH & MH — When you see a work you like, does it become successful? Is it something you think about? If it reaches you it is therefore successful?

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — What happens to your graphic design after it has been delivered? Could you describe some of your graphic designs’ life spans post-delivery? How do you hand-off your work to your clients? How do brand guidelines and design systems get adopted and used by your clients? How rigid are your design systems? How do you feel about letting go of your designs? How long should designers continue to produce design artifacts for clients after the initial consultancy has ended?

18.04.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — That it feels like you’re doing the same project twice is a great way to put it. Kind of like the drunken serendipity of design work loses its charm when you have to come back to retrace its steps and spell things out on a document doesn’t it.

Part of what design guidelines and systems do is that they may allow designers to cope better with handing off work to the client, which perhaps can be compared to sending your kid to college for the first time. With design guidelines, at least you have written out for them how you want your child to in the way you deem good.

The thing is that we can never know how our designs will evolve in the control of other people, nor can we predict how individual and cultural bodies will engage with our design work over time. There may be some beauty in letting go of the work and witnessing it grow into new possibilities we hadn’t imagined as it is used and understood in newer contexts and locales.

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — Do you think it possible to talk about graphic design without talking about the formal, stylistic, procedural, or business aspects of the work? Or is there merit in talking about these things?

16.03.2020, On Nut BTS, Bangkok

PH & MH — Do you have discussions about form and style at the office? We are curious to know.

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — What are your thoughts on style? I have this feeling that market forces are driving individual designers towards stylistic individualization, which drives designers into aesthetic territorial markings and competition. How should designers today work to share resources or democratize the mythology of design tools and work?

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — There is a kind of flattening of online publishing via social media apps. Apps like WeChat in China, and other platforms like medium.com or Facebook or Twitter. Not only do articles in these websites look visibly similar, their credibility as sources of knowledge and truth also appear to be comparable. In your experience, how is online publishing different from offline publishing?

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — What differences have you noticed in talking, working, spending time with, doing and teaching graphic design with people in New York and in Changsha? How does language play a role in the constraints or openness of hierarchical interaction, online and offline?

10.03.2020, Sai Ma, Nonthaburi

WS — You’ve been in Bangkok for a couple of weeks now. Any thoughts on how graphic design (images, texts, videos, visual artifacts) inhabits and propagates throughout this city?

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CONTRIBUTORS

Pianpian He and Max Harvey – Graphic design graduates from Yale University. They are widely known in Instagram as infoandupdates. The duo currently lives and works in Changsha, China. www.infoandupdates.com

Win Shanokprasith – A Nonthaburi-based graphic designer, Win graduated in Fine Arts and designed some graphic design projects while he was in New York. Win currently works full-time as a UX designer and works part-time for BANGKOK CITYCITY GALLERY, designing its key visuals and graphic materials.

Cover illustration by Napisa Leelasuphapong with her trials in designing the breaking news cover, as a revision to necessity, countermeasure and role of graphic designers in the world context where breaking news seems to come in every second.

Proofread by Supamas Phahulo, Nunnaree Panichkul, and Nuttha Isaraphithakkul